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2/23/2009
You just released “Jazz, Soul and Hip-Hop,” which was produced by Pete Rock. How did that collaboration come about?
It actually came about through a friend of mine. In the last year I started working on a jazz album. I don’t want to call it a hip-hop/jazz album or a cliché saying so I’m just going to call it a jazz album and what I really wanted to do was a real decent album that people can take and embrace it and rock out with it. What I really wanted to do was apply real chord changes and have it be with cats that did nothing but hip-hop and R&B music. I reached out to Hi Tek and I reached out to Quik and my partner in this is Fuzzy Fantabulous from Power 106. We have a company right now and Fuzzy, he talked to his people and he actually reached out to Pete Rock about actually doing some beats for me for the album. Pete had sent him some records for the album.
I cut that song and actually I cut it in the studio that shall remain nameless. I cut the record in the studio with J Blacc and Bad Lucc. And what happened, actually, is I did something that I would never do. I left my hard drive there overnight and there was some sneaky engineers there and they went through my hard drive and they got a gang of songs with artists like Quik and Snoop and all of them. They leaked a song that hit in Europe first and I had been getting calls about that for a cool month. When I found out that that record had leaked in Europe first, I got a hold of the record and I found out why it leaked and why and of course nobody fesses up to a real leak but it ended up doing something good for me. It ended up making me more known on that level and I have to get back in with Pete Rock and do something that’s not going to leak. Once it was already out there I wanted to give it to HipHopGame and let them fly out with it.
How did Pete Rock feel about the song leaking?
Well, after this interview we’ll find out! (laughs) But you know, I wasn’t doing nothing devilish and nothing sneaky because Pete Rock has definitely been one of my forefathers and my heroes and I understand what it’s like when a record leaks, especially me as a producer. I totally understand that when a record leaks but you have to take some control. I definitely have high hopes of working with Pete Rock ASAP. I’m actually going out to New York in a few months to work with everybody out there that I wanted to work with and he’s definitely on my agenda to work with.
What possessed you to leave your hard drive in the studio?
It was about four o’clock in the morning. I was actually working on the Quincy Jones record and a lot of my equipment was there. I had been there for four of five days and I had only left for five or six hours. I went to the hotel and I changed clothes and I came back and I guess something happened where they switched my files. I didn’t think anything of it but I looked at the date that the files were opened last and it was dated to the time when I was at the hotel. I was thinking he probably just backed up the files and whatnot and I go to the backup files and there’s no backup files.
I was like, ‘Shit.’ They leaked a song I did with Snoop and we were able to shut it down quickly but other songs got out. I was upset at first but then again I wasn’t upset. I was like, ‘You know what? I can make better songs.’ If this puts a band-aid on the music, so be it. It’s a song. It is what it is. Music comes and goes and that’s a good way to deal with the leak. Look at the albums that leak. People get all upset when albums leak but get it out there and come up with another one.
Another angle to the whole leak thing to is that some people don’t get paid. That’s another angle that I’ve actually been through but hey, we’ve all been through it and this is music and we have the internet.
At least your music is worth bootlegging and leaking.
Yeah. Man, you know what? Snoop Dogg always told me this – if the bootleggers and the streets aren’t feeling your shit, then your shit ain’t shit. (laughs)
What I really liked about “Jazz, Soul and Hip-Hop" was that both you and Pete Rock were out of your most comfortable elements and came together in a weird sort of compromise.
Exactly. The beat came out with just drums and the sample. It was just that classic Pete Rock shit. I had to bring it to the other level to where the other cats could enjoy it too, the cats that are over the ages of 40 and 50. I had to play on top of all that. I had to play bass and all that. I went crazy over that record and then it still wasn’t giving me what I needed. At first I had saxophone on it and it still wasn’t giving me what I needed. That’s why I called up J Blacc and Bad Lucc.
J Blacc is a talented songwriter and he’s worked with everybody. I’m doing his album. He’s actually one of the most prolific songwriters out there. And I’m doing Bad Lucc’s album too. He’s the spokesman for the ghettos right now. A lot of cats love Pete Rock but a lot of cats don’t love jazz and a lot of cats don’t love Pete Rock. The neighborhoods that we come out of, we grew up off of N.W.A. and the real gangster shit.
I love Pete Rock and I wanted to bring his music straight to the ‘hood. I’m talking about the people that we grew up with that were straight killers and banged gangster shit and now they’re banging this Pete Rock shit with the saxophone on top of it. It even makes them think harder about a lot of stuff. Jazz is such an influential music, especially with what these cats are saying over here. We’re all preaching peace and it’s all good over that grimy Pete Rock New York shit and we got cats like J Blacc and Bad Lucc. It’s a very beautiful situation right now for that record. I’m sorry that it leaked but I’m happy that it leaked into the ghettos.
And I’m going to say this – from ghetto to ghetto right now, they don't really hear no positive music. All a lot of them embrace is the real hardcore gangster music. I love it and I definitely grew up out of it and I definitely made a cool little living off of that and off of any kind of music. But through songs like that and other particular songs that leaked, that may help a dude out that’s going through some crazy shit because music is very hypnotizing too. He may pop that in and second guess going to jack a motherfucker. His day is now better because this dope-ass jazz song had brightened up this dude’s day. Now that your mind is safe why don’t you take yourself to church? That’s just one situation. That record that leaked out with Pete Rock, that is banging. That reminds me of having a picnic with my family. That’s helped me out too and I never supported music that’s about killing people and all that kinds of stuff. I’m more on a peaceful level right now.
Coming from the west and making the kind of music you make, which runs the gamut from commercial to hardcore to underground, do you think you can get where you want?
I definitely think that you can. Look at my good friend Murs. He’s a dear friend of mine. He makes good commercial music and it’s all from his heart. He makes a real good living, hands down. I’ve been to a lot of these concerts and worked with a lot of these dudes and he lives better than about 55% of these rappers popping their collars and talking about popping this and that. And he’s easy to get a long with and he speaks proper English. How ‘bout that? And he’s ‘hood. He’s not a buster.
Have you ever had any conversations with Pete Rock about jazz?
Nah. Actually, man, you know what? I saw him rock a few times but, man, every time I see Pete Rock I get tongue-tied. I’m star-struck, man. I’m star-struck for him and DJ Premier. These are my heroes. I’m star-struck around Herbie Hancock. It’s weird, man. I was talking to Dr. Dre at a party. It was Phillip Atwell’s birthday party and we were talking about music but it was weird because Dr. Dre was talking to me. It’s a weird thing, man. I’m not scared to say that. These cats are my heroes and I want to ask them what it was like doing X, Y and Z. I’ve had conversations with Pete Rock about jazz through his music. It’s no mystery. Through his music he’s real knowledgeable about jazz music. That’s why I recruited him before anyone because to me, being a musician he’s been one of the only ones…It’s weird. He could sample a saxophone and piano from different records and it sounds like they go together. The only one I know who could also do that is J Dilla and without a Pete Rock would there be a J Dilla?
If you had your way with working with Pete, how would it go?
I would set up Pete with a record player and an MPC and you know, right there with all the drums he wanted and I would have a baby grand piano and a saxophone and I would grab my friend Dante to play the trumpet and my friend Marlon to play the guitar and to have truly the best of both worlds and to come up with a record like that to where if Pete wanted to come up with something, we could come up with it and he could sample it and we wouldn’t have to pay nobody and he could put it up on record. I’m very curious to what that would sound like. Or I could be humble in the corner and just have Herbie Hancock and Pete Rock in the room.
That may be a tough one to pull off.
Well, you know, man, look, with good music, anything is possible because I know how to get at both of those artists. (laughs) Anything is possible, man.
When you work on your jazz music, how do you work?
I don’t prefer to sample anything. That’s me, personally. I play. I don’t have to sample anything. If I want to get something that has a sample feel, I’ll play something and spend the time mixing it. DJ Quik taught me how to make it sound like a sample. I’ll burn a CD and put it in my CDJ and put it through the MP and I’ll chop up my own things but I choose not to sample. If I sample it’s because the artist has that request for me to sample but I try to look at my other options.
There are only a few cats who do the sampling great and really push that line. I’m not one of those cats. Buckwild does it and he’s excellent. Pete Rock and JD Premier do it. J Dilla did it. I appreciate that and I grew up loving that but I don’t do that. I practiced way too long to sample right now, for me. I’m already trying to start digging my own ideas so that 20-30 years somebody else could be sampling my music and I could be getting paid or if my kids are around and I’m dead they could live off of that. But me sampling? Not for me.
When did you realize that you had the talent to make your own beats?
I first recognized that when I used to get called to replay samples. That was a time when you could replay a sample and you didn’t have to pay for it because you played it. Now the rule is that if it sounds like it you gotta pay for it. I definitely listen to older records for inspiration. I’ll play the last eight bars of something backwards or something and I definitely listen to them for inspiration but you know, you can get to the level where you don’t want to sample and you want to be able to say, ‘Yo, this came from me. This totally came from me.’ Nothing could ever totally come from me because there are no new ways to play anything and we’re all playing recycled music, I just want to go as far as I can with the recycled music that I play. That’s a good question, dude. You always ask the right shit. I guess you don’t really know. You just kind of dive in. (laughs)
What makes a good jazz/hip-hop record versus a bad one?
I could tell when it’s done right. I could tell that when somebody plays that they have knowledge and if they have the true jazz language and if they have the true hip-hop language. I could tell. Some people just play over stuff. It really only works better when both parties have knowledge of both worlds. I mean, they don’t have to play both worlds to be good in both worlds but they have to be familiar with both. There’s an equal amount of respect in both. I've heard a lot of cats do jazz records and they wanted to play a hip-hop beat and play jazz over it but it don’t work like that.
First of all, for me it's about staying innovative and staying new. If you do that you could call if jazz if you wanted to but I could be able to tell the cats that’s faking and playing with it. I’m a fan of Karriem Riggins. H’s a producer but he also plays the drums. He worked with J Dilla a lot and he works with Common a lot. He works with everybody. He’s one of my favorite drummers and favorite producers. There’s not a lot of cats like that. I don’t know everybody but the ones that I know of, I like him. I would like to work with him for my jazz record too.
What are your top five favorite jazz albums?
Blue Train by John Coltrane. Miles Davis’ box set Live at the Plug Nickel. Cannonball Adderly’s Live at the Club. Cannonball Adderly’s Something Else. And Sonny Stitt Plays Bird. I hope everybody Googles all of those names that I just mentioned because all of those cats that I just mentioned, I don’t think we have a lot of that in hip-hop music right now.
Do you prefer to work with artists that have knowledge about jazz and other genres of music?
I’m definitely aware of up-and-coming talent and I’m fortunate to work with people where if they don’t know a lot about jazz, once they leave my house they leave knowing something about jazz and they start getting into jazz. I take them out to jazz clubs and stretch their brains about it and make them aware of it. We have ideas for whole different genres of music. Like Bad Lucc is now a jazz fan and he’s putting a little more thought in his verses and he’s quoting Art Blakey’s name in his verses and Miles and Coltrane. J Blacc has always been a jazz guy and Snoop always has been. Kurupt has always been.
And see, it’s not weird to me because everybody that I’ve worked with so far in my career, they’re highly intelligent and open-minded people. I haven’t worked with anyone that has the IQ of a pigeon yet but I’m sure they’re out there.
They are.
(laughs) I know you run into a lot of different people. I know they’re out there. I read a lot of these interviews with the way these people usually talk to you or talk to other people. You can tell by somebody’s music a lot of the time what the person is about. Usually if they’re over-over-over-over the top gangster, they’re so not that. Usually if they just play it real cool and they’re real calm and collected and just happy to be alive, those are the ones that are going to tear up some shit.
Why do you think you’re able to work with a variety of artists from Snoop and Bad Lucc to Murs?
Man, they’re all different. Me and Bad Lucc make one type of music. It’s cool. We can make dark purple music and bright red music. I know it’s hard to explain. That’s the color of that. With Snoop I make a lot of yellow music. With Murs I do any and all of the colors of music. With J Blacc I do a sky blue kind of color.
With J Blacc and Kurupt I can do anything with them. I can fly to the moon with them. A lot of the fans don’t know that Kurupt can go anywhere but a lot of the people he works with won’t let him go there. He wants to go far and it’s hard to let Kurupt go far because of what he’s done but he’s still a student of the music and he’s trying to tell people that he wants to grow. Kurupt can go anywhere, any place but because of what he’s done the people might put him in a box and we don’t get to hear that. But Kurupt is on the same level as the Jay-Z’s and all that. Kurupt is so much more than a lot of these cats. He’s a walking time bomb on that mic and he’s an amazing artist. I’m also doing 95% of his new record and hopefully through that the people will see how far he can go. We’re doing this record for us.
The West is known for classic funk and gangster music. Do you think you bring a new sound to the West with your jazz-inspired music?
There’s a handful of guys that’s rapping over different shit. First of all, a lot of these cats out here are rapping on what they think is hot right now because that’s what everybody is telling them what’s hot right now. The new West sound, I don’t even think it’s really even been captured yet. A lot of people say I’m somewhat of the new thing but I’m not even pushing that line. I’m just pushing good music and having the artists be innovative and different.
Just because I’m from L.A., I’ll read about how I have a new G-funk sound but if I was from somewhere else I would have another sound. There’s only a few cats out here that I like, like Jay Rock. I like that single he has out with Cool and Dre. I think they did it. “In the ghetto, ghetto.” Who else is pushing the line musically? Problem. Problem from Compton. He always raps on some different stuff, not the same stuff that you would expect someone from the west to rap over. I like what Bishop Lamont is doing a whole lot. I was in the studio with him in October and I heard a lot of the things that he was bringing to the table, hip-hop wise. I’m not a big West Coast/East Coast fan. I don’t care about none of that. I just push good music and he’s pushing that line musically.
It’s sad, man, but everybody I mentioned on the West Coast are, in my opinion, the ones that are doing some different shit and trying to push that line. Everybody else is sounding regurgitated. A lot of cats are rapping over south music and that tells you a lot about their personalities when they try to do something that’s been done musically instead do trying to do someone new. You can tell a lot about a person's character by the music that they rap over and what they put out. At least I can. But I think they have different priorities and I don’t care about getting a big house and a gang of girls. I’m looking at it deeper than that. I’m sorry. That was a long answer.
Why do you think you haven’t blown up yet?
Well, for a few reasons. A few reasons. Partially it’s my fault mainly because I guess I’m not really going outside of my box because for years I wanted nothing but to be a jazz musician. I didn’t want to do the mainstream thing and I was battling with it for years and I was getting so much flack. It was going back and forth in my head and it was like two different worlds and I realized that I needed to make one big world with the different kinds of music.
And another thing is by the time I got good on the drum machine and good enough to produce a solid song on somebody, it was kind of like California already had a black eye on it. It was like nobody was coming out here to work and there weren’t cats coming out here. That was the first time I went through that until I realized, ‘You know what? I need to hop on a plane and just go other places.’
The other issue is that I stay on the road a lot just being a musician. I didn’t really have a lot of time where I could just do beats all day at home and just grind out and then go stand in front of somebody’s studio and pass out CDs. I’ve been on the road since I was 17 years-old and I would love a hit record and a No. 1 single and that’s what we all strive for but at the end of the day if I could just continue living in a cool house with a three car garage in a decent neighborhood and just survive like I’m doing now, then I’m totally blessed and I thank God for that because I know a lot of people that can’t do the music and make a living right now so in my brain, am I satisfied? Of course never. But one day I have high hopes of having a real No. 1 record and until that day comes I’m happy for what I have and I’m blessed and I thank God that I got to be able to work with a lot of people. I’m going to keep on fighting hard and maybe one day that hit will come.
Does the fact that you’re still really underrated bother you?
I mean, it doesn’t bother me as much as it bothers other people. It bothers other people that I’m not mentioned as much. It would bother me more if cats said I couldn’t play and I was wack. But nah, it only bothers me because usually eight times out of 10 I’m usually mentioned. It doesn’t really bother me so much. It bothers all my friends around me but it doesn’t get to me that much. I mean, of course if I’m looking at a magazine and I’m looking at the top 10 on the West Coast and my name is not on there, it’s like, ‘Wow, they forgot about me.’ That’s okay. Everybody has an opinion. Not everybody liked John Coltrane when he started playing and people thought N.W.A. would never make it when they put out their first records. (laughs) You know what I’m saying?
It just takes time.
But I’m going to keep on putting out some good music. And I love doing music, dude. I love hooking up with cats to do music. That brings more joy to me than anything in the world. I love doing music and making music and listing to music and talking about music. I’m in love with the music. I’m not in love with the magazine articles and I’m not in love with interviews and I’m not in love with multiple women. I’m not in love with anything but the music. I’m in love with the music.
I don’t do this for nothing else but just to ease my soul, man, and to ease my pain and I’ve been blessed to be able to make a cool living off this music. Am I rich? No. Am I poor? No. But I’m cool. And I’m happy. I love the music, dude. I can’t explain to you how much I really love this music. Not just rap. I love good music. So that’s really why nothing really bothers me and nothing really gets to me too tough because I truly am in love with this art form. I love seeing people play this music and I love seeing an artist go hard.
I don’t love seeing all the negative things. I don’t like hearing songs talking about how I’m going to kill this dude when I see him. I'm not a fan of beef. I’m not a fan of beefing over records. I’m a believer where if you have a problem with somebody then you see then and you chop it up and if it comes to something it does. I’m not a fan of talking about somebody on record and then shaking their hand when you see them. The music should tell a story and don’t abuse the music because it will abuse you and you will lose your soul over this business. That’s why I’ve never been in love with the business. I’m in love with the music and I’ll live and die with the music.
You got the wrong attitude.
Exactly! (laughs) Dude, I’m not talking about catching nobody at the stoplight or beating them. I don’t have guns. I’m not into that. People are starting to abuse the internet things. People need to be careful because the F.B.I. watches this stuff and a lot of these cats with the internet beefs don’t want no real problems with nobody. I don’t want no real problems. I don’t want to get shot at and I don’t want to have to have a million guys with me wherever I go.
I just want to do music and just be cool, man, and just do me. A lot of these people, they just don’t get it. There are a lot of other things to do in this world than to just talk about somebody or be jealous of somebody. Anybody talking reckless about somebody on the internet to me is just completely jealous. I saw this thing where there are a lot of different beefs on World Star. I see a lot of crazy beefs and a lot of these cats I’ve seen in clubs in the same spot and nobody did nothing to each other. (laughs)
I know about a few real beefs that really went down and unfortunately those beefs ended up in deaths. And I don’t think nobody wants to die, man. That’s why people should just use this music as a vehicle to get out and stop hating on other people. I hear people hating on Lil’ Wayne and hating on Snoop. Maybe try and be like them and it can happen to you.
There’s all these little hate things. On the West Coast everybody’s mad at Snoop. Everybody’s mad at Dr. Dre. Everybody’s mad. The funny thing about is is that they have nothing to be mad at. A lot of these people want their autographs and they’re mad that they can’t get close to get their autographs. They turn things around and they hate and they say negative things. I hate seeing that, man, because it puts a black eye on music itself and definitely the West Coast.
You’re working on Snoop’s reality show and are a part of the band with Soopafly. How’s that going?
Yeah. And Snoop signed a deal with MTV for his next record. It’s on MTV’s label. I think that’s real hot. That’s real different because nowadays when you do a record you have to do so many different styles of marketing and promotion. You’ll see a lot of cats on the show. You’ll see Kurupt. Soopafly is actually the official music director of the band. It’s always an honor to work with him. He’s another underrated cat. A lot of people don’t understand what he’s responsible for. He’s part of All Eyez on Me being such a historical album. DJ Quik mixed that record. These underrated cats helped change the face of music and they don’t get the props that they deserve.
God has a place for everybody. I might fit in that line of people. Everybody has a lane and everybody fits in a whole different line. I’m just riding the boat right now, man. I'm just riding the boat.
How do you see your music coming out in the future?
I wanna go independent. I’m going independent. I still have a label deal at Warner Brothers but I need to move at my own speed right now and I need to put out good music. I need to let the world hear this music. I’m into this whole digital world right now and doing interviews like this helps out what I’m trying to do because I’m about to kick up my whole digital label. The first two artists coming out are going to be J Blacc and Bad Lucc and I’m going to do a jazz album. I’m going to be doing three albums in ’09. I’m doing a jazz album and I’m incorporating cats from all different genres of music on this album and we’ll just fly out. I don’t care if I sell one record. If I sell one record to somebody who really loves music than maybe he’ll tell a friend about it and I’ll sell two records.
But I’m just doing this for music. I’m definitely not doing this for all the money. It takes money to live and if I can make just enough to feed my family then I’m good. And I’ve been doing that. I’m good.
Are you and DJ Quik still working on music?
Oh yeah. I just talked to Quik the other day. Quik is my all-American hero. Quik taught me how to use the tools to mix records. We definitely still work together. He just finished up the Quik and Kurupt record and he just finished his own record and we all know how that’s going to be.
You know what? It bothers me when DJ Quik is not mentioned as a top 10 MC and he’s not honored on Hip-Hop Honors. He sold a lot of records worldwide and it bothers me when he’s not listed as one of the top MCs, not just producers. I don’t know anyone that can o with him, young or old. This dude is still amazing, like he’s 18 still. It bothers me when he’s not mentioned a lot. It bothers me when Kurupt is not mentioned a lot, way more than it bothers me because I haven’t done anything compared to what they’ve done in music, yet. Technically I don’t even deserve to be mentioned. Let me keep rocking out.
How's your Melrose project with Murs coming?
We are 50% in. We keep on changing directions but now we’re back in. We are going to do love-making folk music with condoms. This is going to be fun. We’re doing fun records. We don’t care about the radio. We don’t care about record companies. We’re just going to put out this record and let it fly. And we’re going to tour off of this record even if we’re doing 15 year-old birthday parties. We’re going to show up and rock it. And I think we’re talking about a fourth-quarter release on that. You will be hearing some music. We’re probably going to do the first leak only through you guys too. By the end of next month you’ll be receiving the first email with the Melrose record that needs to be heard.
And we’re doing this for music. We’re definitely not doing music talking about killing people and talking about this and that and how many cars we got and how many guys we beat up and how many girls we were with because we don’t care about none of that, dog. Once we do that we’re going to fly out and have fun and anyone that wants to have fun come out and hang with us.
You have a ton of different projects right now. How do you keep track of everything while staying sane?
I do interviews like these to remind myself of everything I forgot about. This is why I’ve been getting calls from Bad Lucc to finish anything.
Glad I could help.
Thank you a lot.
Last time we did an interview you said you wanted to work with Max B. Did anything ever come of that?
I shouted it out and it got a buzz on the internet but Max B still hasn't called. But it’s cool. Who knows? Maybe in the future I’ll work with Max B.
Anyone else you want to try to get at?
Let me think. Let me think. Nah. I want to work with other producers. I want to work with Buckwild but he knows that. I want to work with Just Blaze. I want to work with a lot of other producers that get it. I want to work with Kanye. I want to work with everybody. I want to work with anybody that makes great music.
Real quick, I’m taking a break but I’m working with Frank from Frank N Dank. We’re four or five songs in. There’s a song we did called “Love Right Now” put together by Scrap. That’s my whole Detroit family. RJ is the one that’s pushing a line musically. RJ is amazing. If you go to YouTube look up all of them. They are doing that classic Detroit thing and they are pushing that line.
I hear a lot of cats that sound like Dilla or think they sound like Dilla but what RJ is doing is what I try to do. I don’t try to sound like Battlekat. I don’t try to sound like Quik. I don’t try to sound like Dr. Dre. I take what I learn from these cats and have my own sound and I think that’s what he’s trying to do.
A lot of these cats get on these drum machines and they try to sound like everybody else and that kills music too and that slows music down because it’s reactive, not proactive. It’s reducing, not producing. I hear a lot of cats sounding like this person or that person. I hear a lot of cats sounding like Dr. Dre and a lot of cats sounding like Lil’ Jon and others. Cats need to try to sound like themselves.
For everybody trying to sound like anybody else, I wish you the best but you’re really slowing down the music and if you want to sound like somebody else, I really wish you would get a job and stop doing music.
Speaking of jobs, how are your dogs and kennel business doing?
My dogs are doing great, man. I have as much love for them as I have for my music. It’s such a peaceful thing right now. I love dogs. I know people that love to breed. The dog game is like the music game. There’s a lot of faulty people in the dog game too. There’s a lot of liars and a lot of people that take advantage. It’s like the music game. When I was first getting into music a lot of people took advantage of me. A lot of people sold me bad dogs and sold me bad things and sold me lies.
I stopped listening to people and picked up the books and gained my own knowledge. I got a dude I’ve been dealing with, Eddie from Blue Line Kennels down in Riverside, California, and he’s actually taught me a lot. Darren “Doc” Moore out in Corpus Christi has taught me a lot about working with dogs and getting dogs better when they’re sick and everything like that. I’ve actually gained a lot of knowledge from those two cats. The dogs are winning and be looking out for some new dogs to come back into the game. I’m bringing back the dogs in the video! It doesn’t have to be all girls.
These are some beautiful pit bulls. Don’t punish the breed, punish the deed. And I hate dudes that fight dogs. Those dudes that do that have little-ass dicks and they’re less of a man and I would like to see them jump into the ring and fight to the death. All y’all fighting dogs, y’all could suck a dick. A big one. And I don’t normally cuss but I hate that.
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