Religion. World better off with, or with out..?

[Kizzang]

The homosexual thread got me thinking about this.. I am mostly talking of the major religions, minus shit like confucianism. With out jesussss. A LOT of things would not have happened or at least not for religious reasons.. The Crusades, Inquisition, Holocaust, too many other genocides to even fuckin name.. There is always ulterior motives though. Even if it would not be better or worse it would certainly be different.. This is obviously completely hypothetical and would never happen. Unless everyone gradually becomes atheist, because clearly with out jesus it would have just been something else. So just assuming nothing filled the void and it just died out, and everyone did become atheist. IDKKKK I think it is interesting. You think it would be better, worse, or just different? For what reasons?

[¶-7-¶]

everyone just needs to search within themselves to find God! God saves! God heals! God's the truth! GOD is ONE!!! Can I get A AMEN?!!

ok thank u very much, u can now sit down and lets start the sermon...

[C^Mil]

the world would be very interesting to say the least..without religion or some source that gives people faith the world may still be in the roman type times, or like the movie 300 all over the world..alot more ppl wouldnt give a flyin fuck though, so i can say it'd be a much more dangerous world to be in without something to fall back on for penance, and such..

[Inkognito]

What if it's all made up?

[White Ice]

It'd be better without.

[RaShad]

There is no such thing as a world without religion.

Since religion is a set of beliefs and practices every single person has a religion, in fact "worshipping" is of human nature, if you look at the term with an open mind that is, prophet Mohammad PBUH mentioned that some of the people of the book worship their priests, he was asked how do they worship priests and he said, by fearing them more than Allah and by following them blindly.

That is why the idea of Islam and the literal meaning of a Muslim is a person who liberates her/himself by submitting to Allah's will, because if you don't submit to Allah's will then you will definitely submit to something else and that "something else" is beneath Allah, so you might as well submit to the most high.

If you wanna know who you worship look for the thing that you consider before making any decision, or the thing that governs your decision making... things like money, pussy, public image/reputation, and so on, and by submitting to these things you become enslaved to the people that control them, for example if you submit to money you'll be enslaved to the wealthy, if you submit to pussy you'll be enslaved to women and if you submit to public image you'll be enslaved to the media... one little example... Obama submitted to his public image, he was enslaved by the media and he worshipped his public image by quitting his church and distancing himself from rev. Jermiah.

Bottomline is yall are worshippers and therefore there is no such thing as a world without a religion.

[Kizzang]

Do you even read/think before you post sons?

[RaShad]

It says "Religion. World better off with, or without..?"

And that is retarded because there is no such thing as a world without religion, so you are comparing something with nothing...

[Kizzang]

I clearly said that in the first post and that this was obviously purely hypothetical. Simply a what if. Thanks for answering my question though.

[White Ice]

It says "Religion. World better off with, or without..?"

And that is retarded because there is no such thing as a world without religion, so you are comparing something with nothing...

Religion really has skewed your ability to think outside the box.

You're so blinded you can't even look at a situation abstractly, and make a decision.

No shit, there isn't such a thing as a world without religion. We're in it, and there's religion. But its a fucking what if question. Learn to think for yourself man.

And in the end, your post just serves as a good example as to why the world would be a better place without religion.

[RaShad]

Religion really has skewed your ability to think outside the box.

You're so blinded you can't even look at a situation abstractly, and make a decision.

No shit, there isn't such a thing as a world without religion. We're in it, and there's religion. But its a fucking what if question. Learn to think for yourself man.

And in the end, your post just serves as a good example as to why the world would be a better place without religion.

lmao, my first post was probably the only logical post in this thread son and I think its pretty shalow of you to label me as "blinded" just because I'm a strong believer, If there is anything logically wrong with what I've mention then please highlight it without getting emotional...

and your last conclusion is based on what?? how does my post contribute to making this world a worse place?

[Kizzang]

Your first post was irrelevant gibberish.. I for one do not submit to anything. Perhaps you should worship me sons.

[RaShad]

I clearly said that in the first post and that this was obviously purely hypothetical. Simply a what if. Thanks for answering my question though.

Man I hate elaborating shit as if am speaking to children, I'm basically saying and if you read my first post after this you'll see it, that if there was no religion (as in main religions) in this world then there would be other religions, not systematic though but each and every person would have his own set of beliefs and practices and that would be more chiotic.

[RaShad]

Your first post was irrelevant gibberish.. I for one do not submit to anything. Perhaps you should worship me sons.

Liar, get real son you submit to life and you are enslaved by death, but real Muslims like the kid in my avi do not even submit to life, you'd shit out your intestines standing against that tank son..fuck outa here!

[Inkognito]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3ZFCdFrdEE

[Kizzang]

Wrong sons. I climb trees during tornado warnings. You clearly do not know me. These pussies can't kill me and I am surely not worried about dying. That shit is fun sons. Death is puss shi.. That kid aint shit.. Nothing is going to happen to him.. He is throwin a pebble at a god damn tank..

[BluntsaGod]

I been telling you religion clouds your mind and until that which you cannot question is structurally questioned and you do not get overly defensive you will not be able to substitute the box in which you live.

Most if not all religion requires exclusivity just like any group with wishes to separate humans from humanity. and once that's done and they give others humans a place and you a place there are artificial lines drawn and humanity as a whole cannot operate like this for long, people credit kindness to religion but this is not true most humans will show qualities equal to or above those taught to the religious about giving and caring. of course this is not to say the world would be perfect or even worse but it will have a lot of people whom operated with so much control with the ability to think beyond what they were taught too. Technology would be the same if not better without set rules to abide by. Humans are so stupid they think that if there was no religion they would running around raping each other this is of course not the case. Whoever made the 1st idea of believing in a deity pure or above the others in that period were genius I never seen a more purer form of control.

not to mention throwing a rock isn't really going to accomplish much nawm

[Inkognito]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdnDYaU8-qE

[White Ice]

lmao, my first post was probably the only logical post in this thread son and I think its pretty shalow of you to label me as "blinded" just because I'm a strong believer, If there is anything logically wrong with what I've mention then please highlight it without getting emotional...

and your last conclusion is based on what?? how does my post contribute to making this world a worse place?

Because Religion always has, and always will, suppress intelligence. And your post was a perfect example of it.

And and even better example is Galileo. Intelligence undermines religion. Intelligence is a threat to religion.

I been telling you religion clouds your mind and until that which you cannot question is structurally questioned and you do not get overly defensive you will not be able to substitute the box in which you live.

That was damn near perfectly stated.

[Emzee]

Liar, get real son you submit to life and you are enslaved by death, but real Muslims like the kid in my avi do not even submit to life, you'd shit out your intestines standing against that tank son..fuck outa here!

yes...children attempting to commit suicide.

SUCH a good influence religion has....

dumbass.