Reply With Quotelol.... based on?
Vick
Vince
Vince Young vs Michael Vick
I think vince is a better QB
Originally Posted by Crack Morris
lol.... based on?
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Vick seemed to question decisions by coach Jim Mora and his staff.
"We've got first-round guys, we've got guys that have been in the Pro Bowl offensively and defensively, guys who've been in the scheme for two to three years," Vick said. "You know, the talent level is there, and I just think it's a question that needs to be answered. I don't know what it is, but we're too good to be losing these games, and we should be ranked among the elite in this league this year and we're not."
You just can't come out there and just try to wing it. I'm not saying that we did that, but either we've got to come out and throw the football or come out and try to establish the run."
everyone who questions michael vick is usually either:
1.biased against Black qb's
2.never watch a number of falcons games with a close eye on him
3.the same ppl who defend below average qb's who have better talent around them....
ive killed countless ppl here in stats, facts, and debates on the 'whos better' arguments.... this is the always the easiest one to win... his line is a joke, his coaches are frauds, and his wr's are quitters... what qb can win with that?
in the past years, vick has.. but this year - injuries have finally caught up with them...
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I like mike vick what he did in lambo doesnt get done. therefore he earned my respect. I do not think since he has been in the league he has improved his passing ability at all he is a great running back and I feel he needs to get out of atl to win.
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mid youre not lookin bright right now so ill help you out....
look at the two stats i put in bold....when is the last time you saw a team rush the ball 55 times in one game? ... smarten up dude lolPassing
Carolina Comp Att Yds Pct Y/A Sack YdsL TD Int
C. Weinke 4 7 32 57.1 4.6 3 21 1 0
Atlanta Comp Att Yds Pct Y/A Sack YdsL TD Int
M. Vick 9 20 109 45.0 5.5 3 15 0 2
Rushing
Carolina Rush Yds Avg Lng TD FumL
D. Foster 28 102 3.6 11 0 0
D. Williams 21 82 3.9 10 0 0
B. Hoover 1 4 4.0 4 0 0
C. Weinke 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
S. Smith 1 -5 -5.0 -5 0 0
Atlanta Rush Yds Avg Lng TD FumL
M. Vick 4 32 8.0 18 0 0
W. Dunn 9 29 3.2 14 0 0
J. Norwood 5 20 4.0 6 0 0
M. Jenkins 1 2 2.0 2 0 0
Receiving
Carolina Rec Yds Avg Lng TD FumL
K. Johnson 1 21 21.0 21 0 0
D. Foster 1 5 5.0 5 0 0
D. Williams 1 5 5.0 5 0 0
J. King 1 1 1.0 1 1 0
Atlanta Rec Yds Avg Lng TD FumL
A. Lelie 3 40 13.3 26 0 0
A. Crumpler 3 39 13.0 19 0 0
R. White 1 12 12.0 12 0 0
W. Dunn 1 9 9.0 9 0 0
M. Jenkins 1 9 9.0 9 0 0
i dont know if you know how to read drive charts but basically look at the bold and thatll tell you all you need to know....CAR ran the ball on the first 12 plays of the game and had nearly 3/4 adv in time of possession...Carolina Drives
1st Quarter
Start
Time Time
Poss Drive
Began # of
Plays Yards
Gained Result
10:20 10:29 CAR 27 16 73 TD
2nd Quarter
Start
Time Time
Poss Drive
Began # of
Plays Yards
Gained Result
12:49 5:58 CAR 15 7 19 Punt
4:49 3:04 ATL 44 7 19 FG
1:06 1:06 50 2 -5 End Half
3rd Quarter
Start
Time Time
Poss Drive
Began # of
Plays Yards
Gained Result
14:54 3:43 CAR 20 6 17 Punt
8:36 8:00 CAR 20 12 32 Punt
4th Quarter
Start
Time Time
Poss Drive
Began # of
Plays Yards
Gained Result
13:42 4:56 CAR 12 7 14 Punt
6:48 3:16 CAR 12 3 -7 Punt
1:13 1:07 CAR 35 3 5 Punt
Atlanta Drives
1st Quarter
Start
Time Time
Poss Drive
Began # of
Plays Yards
Gained Result
14:49 4:24 ATL 17 10 61 FG
2nd Quarter
Start
Time Time
Poss Drive
Began # of
Plays Yards
Gained Result
14:44 1:55 ATL 19 4 17 Punt
6:51 2:02 ATL 11 4 14 Int
1:39 0:33 ATL 11 3 9 Punt
3rd Quarter
Start
Time Time
Poss Drive
Began # of
Plays Yards
Gained Result
11:11 2:35 ATL 21 5 15 Punt
0:36 1:54 ATL 13 5 26 Punt
4th Quarter
Start
Time Time
Poss Drive
Began # of
Plays Yards
Gained Result
8:46 1:58 ATL 11 3 8 Punt
3:32 2:19 ATL 38 7 27 Downs
0:06 0:06 ATL 27 2 0 End Reg
the defense lost this game, and the same ol stuff happened with the o-line and the soft ass WR's....
Last edited by The_Mayor; 12-24-2006 at 06:40 PM.
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trust me I seen it
thats the only way wienke could get his first victory
For just one season right now I'd take Vick easy....for building a team I'd take Vince though since he's got his whole career ahead of him...
tell me what you saw? a sportscenter highlight package? lol... you have to be smarter than that...arent you?
lol unless youre going to tell me that you saw the game on nfl package, then you have absolutely no idea what youre talking about.... vince young has won games with his legs and the titans defense.... guess what vick doesnt have? a defense....
you seem to have an axe to grind against michael vick, who basically has to carry a sorry excuse for a football team on his back every week when hes good or bad, yet you excuse that erratic pick-throwing quarterback for the bears, even though his team has far more talent on both sides of the ball?
if there was a basis for your point, im still waitin for it... as of right now theres nothing but air
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trust me I know what your talking about if I had watched the game I would agree with everything you are saying.
lets not bring my team into this.
you Know I do not watch sports center
I mean I still don't think people realize how bad the Falcons receivers are when they talk about how bad Vick's passing numbers are. Teams are putting their best cornerbacks on Alge Crumpler and usually double him. And in his career...maybe I'm missing someone but his best receivers have been Peerless Price and Brian Finneran. And as a runner Vince is good but he still can't compete with Vick.
as bad as his wr's are if he was more accuate they would look alot better.
i can bring your team into it if i choose to....they arent invicible.... they have many holes and injuries on defense, an accident waitin to happen at starting quarterback, an alcoholic backup qb who was put on the injured list once for tripping over his own dog....
im full aware that the falcons are a bunch of heartless cowards and have given up on their season... but no nfc team should be walking around stuck up.... the saints are the most complete team in the conference right now and have no trouble winning on the road or in the cold.... so id calm down the shit talk if was a fan of any other nfc team for the time being lol
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mayor mayor mayor
I am scared man real scared we look like trash really
any way back to how bad vick and his squad are
ashley lelie ahahahahahahahahahaha
Last edited by MidWest; 12-24-2006 at 07:05 PM.
the only team in the entire league that i have seen with WORSE wr's is jacksonville.. but they have two homerun hitters in the backfield and a WAY better defense than the falcons do
im not a fan of individual players but i give credit where its due... the man plays harder than anyone else on this shitty team... he doesnt always have good stats, but there are 10 other guys on offense that have to dp their jobs too for first downs and touchdowns to happen... they dont.... o-line is shit, wr's are soft, and the playcalling is horrendous... why else would they be calling for his firing on national tv?
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tears are good... keep em comin! lolmayor mayor mayor
I am scared man real scared we look like trash really
any way back to how bad vick and his squad are
ashley lelie ahahahahahahahahahaha
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because its easier to fire a coach than release your franchise player even if he is average.
firing the coach gives you some hope for next year
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