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    In the words of Ghostface "I was born and raised in New York City, the home of the Yankees, Jam Master Jays and the Biggies." So with that said excuse me if my heart bleeds through the pen and my opinions seem slanted. But I'm still going to try my best to be as fair and impartial as possible. Another thing, even though I rep this, don't take me as the sole representer. MY OPINIONS ARE ALL MY OWN. Right now, just take a walk with me as I take you through the mind of a New Yorker.

    "I need New York to be New York again...oh fuck its real talk again." -Tru Life

    Now that's some real talk for that ass. Before I say anything, let me remind you. New York is the mecca of rap. We started this shit. I'm not just bragging and grabbing my nuts for nothing. I'm simply telling the truth. In my eyes, it seems like New York is going through an identity crisis. Don't get it twisted though, everything I say is out of love. I LOVE NEW YORK. The pride and honor that I have to be born and raised in New York is indescribable. I wouldn't want to be from anywhere else, no matter how hot your weather is year 'round or how dope your bitches are.


    But check it. This is the way I see it. Generally speaking, rap is like a big circle. Everything good goes bad and eventually becomes good again. It's a guarantee that everything will come back full circle. It returns to the point in which it began. Simply put, the beginning will be the end. That's just the way it is. Remember the days when the west couldn't get any spins on the east or the time when everybody was laughing at the south. Even the midwest. It was almost like the mid-what? Everything was New York from top to bottom. Now lets get this straight. I'm not going to sit here and start preaching, 'oh New York needs to smash the game and shut everybody the fuck down'....NOOOOOOO!!!! Not at all. To be real, I'm happy to see the movement. Matters fact, the movement only makes us stronger as a culture.


    But my beef is this. In 2006, its no secret that the south now holds the influence in hip-hop. Like I said before, rap is like a circle. Right now its just their time. Sooner or later, its going to be someone's else turn. Now even though the south controls popular music, you don't see the west snappin' and poppin'. Why? Because they're too busy ridin', thats why. What about the southwest? Aren't they screwing their music. So in the most general sense, each region is maintaining their own culture even though popular music is swaying something different. So what about the East coast? New York to be exact. What can
    be said about our music. Our culture. Like I said no disrespect, but you have Harlem's 'Chicken Noodle Soup' sounding like St. Louis' 'Chain Hang Low'. What part of the game is that?!


    You have to understand that each region, whether its east, west, south or midwest has its own sound, culture and music. It reflects their way of life. Let me repeat that for those that missed it. It reflects THEIR way of life. In Texas, it's perfectly normal for them to drink sizzurp & screw their music. Just like in California, who incorporates a lot of funk and melody in their music. Even Atlanta, who is all about high energy music. New York is known to like their music hard, real and lyrical. The main thing to focus on is that everybody's music is reflective of how they live their life. It's whats depicted

    in their hoods. It's a reflection of whats in their heart. It's their sense of pride of where they represent. It's their own regional culture. On a bigger and more important scale, all of the regions actually represent one culture...The Hip-Hop culture.


    But for someone who lives in a distinctive region, it's hard not to remain loyal to the culture that bred you. As for me, the east coast is my region. New York is my heart.


    So with that said, I feel that New York niggas is not doing them. Period. They're looking at everybody else. Better yet they're looking at whats selling and trying to emulate the popular music. That's right, I said it.
    No New York nigga makes nursery rhymes and says 'mane'. What part of the fuckin' game is that! Anyway...what New York needs to do is just make their OWN music. Don't worry about what others are doing. People will gravitate toward you if it's good music. When you try and copy another region's sound, to the public it sounds like a watered-down version of who you're trying to emulate. If you stay true to yourself and your sound, people will respect you for it. The key to Hip-Hop is to rap about YOUR life. When you do that, then people from all over will relate to you. Don't you know curiosity is a motherfucker?


    There hasn't been a nationwide / worldwide phenom from NY since 50 Cent and his 'Get Rich or Die Tryin'. During the height of 50 Cent's debut, the influence he had over every region was incredible. The reason why it sold so much is because it had elements that every region could relate to. The sounds was a melting pot of everybody's culture. During that time, I had spent a week down south. Everywhere I went I constantly heard people bumping different tracks off the album. If I closed my eyes, I would've sworn I was in New York for a minute. I remember me and this one cat was talking music and he told me "When you NY folk rap, you really gotta listen. Down here all we wanna do is get crunk." I say this because, if thats the case, what was it about 50 Cent that attracted this dude and so many others to him? Was it "Many Men", the NY anthem that had niggas grabbin' their chest while singing the chorus from the depths of their soul. What about that funkadelic sound of "21 Questions". Oh yeah, by the way, for your information, ol' boy
    and I had this conversation while sitting down over "High All the Time". But back to the point at hand. If I knew the answer to this question, I would tell you. But unfortunately I don't. In the end, the point that I'm trying to make is that like 'Get Rich or Die Tryin', New York needs that individual or collective voice that speaks a truth that every region can relate to.


    Another thing, let me just say something to New York real quick. When niggas come from out of town, they want to see the authentic New York. People want a glimpse of our life. They want to see the bright lights and big buildings. They want to ride the trains. They want to see that fly-ass Puerto-Rican mami. They want to see how we dress and how we talk....nahmeen? If they go into a club and they see 'us' snappin' n poppin' and shakin' and shit, what we look like? Tru Life said it best, "This is New York, you know what this represents? Shit, we're the fuckin' home of Malcolm X."


    Hey listen, not for nothing, but in my honest opinion NEW YORK IS THE SHIT. This is why I'm venting.
    New York needs to maintain their own identity, their own style and their own swag...no matter what everybody else is doing. There's no doubt in my mind that New York is going to retain the status that they once had, but for now, lets at least rep it like we're suppose to. It's up to you New York.
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    im an emcee myself right i feel what the nyc rappers in the spotlight right now is messin up myself i totally agree they lookin at other regions for what they doin,fat joe makin it rain goin down on the south in his lyrics,jim jones actin like a young jeezy with his baaaaaaaaaaaalin and the adlibs,butt if i was in nyc right now id jus stay true 2 the music the underground artists is still the majority of nicest in nyc...and i dont think thatll change

    artists im bumpin right now per region...
    East_.....brooklyn academy,ike eyez,immortal technique,agallah
    mid-west_....(currently 1)....main flow
    West....holocaust,rass kass
    south...d.s.r.,magno

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    problem with NY right now is they are focusing on being dominant in the Pop arena instead of making the freshest, illest music. I say fresh and ill because being lyrical doesn't automatically make your music good. The 90's spoiled NY because being themselves appealed to the rest of the country, now that it doesn't NY is in panic dickride mode.

    Only way NY as a whole (not just Jigga and Curtis) get back on top is if they pull a Bay Area move and grow the mixtape scene without forcing the mixtape artist to conform to mainstream rules. This means NY mixtape artist pushing real albums with original beats to 100k without gay formula singles. I love Papooses music but who really gives a shit about "Get Right", "Getting Gwop", "My Swag", "Conceited", and all of those weak attempts from skilled mixtape rappers trying to do what established artist do to sell records.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugahill
    problem with NY right now is they are focusing on being dominant in the Pop arena instead of making the freshest, illest music. I say fresh and ill because being lyrical doesn't automatically make your music good. The 90's spoiled NY because being themselves appealed to the rest of the country, now that it doesn't NY is in panic dickride mode.

    Only way NY as a whole (not just Jigga and Curtis) get back on top is if they pull a Bay Area move and grow the mixtape scene without forcing the mixtape artist to conform to mainstream rules. This means NY mixtape artist pushing real albums with original beats to 100k without gay formula singles. I love Papooses music but who really gives a shit about "Get Right", "Getting Gwop", "My Swag", "Conceited", and all of those weak attempts from skilled mixtape rappers trying to do what established artist do to sell records.

    Papoose has to be willing to work with a Mannie Fresh if he wantz to get $ in Da south....I don't know about hiz production, but from the beatz I hear....zzzzzzzzzz with the exception of "Touch It" remix
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    id hate to say it but new york as we knew it is over just look at the times and look how much it has evolved go back to the days of krs one and rakim and then listen to biggie and nas and how much changed from then, then go to today and listen to hate him or love him 50 cent because he changed the way new york sounded. papoose said it best call it new york cause we keep reinventing, thats exactly what new york needs to do they need to reinvent they have to be different thats the core of hip hop being different standing out. until new york can find a way to stand out im sorry but thats that. i love the east coast rap that ol skool 90's flavor thats my shit right there i grew up on all that shit but its done and theres nothing anyone can do to ressurect that in all honesty i cant see new york making a comeback to the top of hip hop without some change
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLiP iS SHaDY
    id hate to say it but new york as we knew it is over just look at the times and look how much it has evolved go back to the days of krs one and rakim and then listen to biggie and nas and how much changed from then, then go to today and listen to hate him or love him 50 cent because he changed the way new york sounded. papoose said it best call it new york cause we keep reinventing, thats exactly what new york needs to do they need to reinvent they have to be different thats the core of hip hop being different standing out. until new york can find a way to stand out im sorry but thats that. i love the east coast rap that ol skool 90's flavor thats my shit right there i grew up on all that shit but its done and theres nothing anyone can do to ressurect that in all honesty i cant see new york making a comeback to the top of hip hop without some change
    Basically NY is a product of it'z own enviroment.....BiG....NAS....JAY....LL....etc...se t the bar very high & the youngstarz are not able to get that "gangstar" -Mass appeal iz what I'm talking about
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    Quote Originally Posted by EzMoney
    Simply put, the beginning will be the end.
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    Thought I understand why that nigga Ghost buggin' out talkin bout identity crisis and whatnot, he's still ONLY refering to pop rappers and shit...3/4ths of New York's Hip-Hop community and scene stopped caring bout industry and record sales a long time ago....Real New York Rap never went anywhere or died...it stayed local & didn't sold out to commercial sales. Instead of takin' a G4 around the world, that shit bought a metrocard and rode the train all night through 5 boroughs. That nigga Ghost need to come back home to concrete jungle. Do a fuckin' song with the Lox or something.... - A Real New Yorkist.
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    money has got an evil spell on this world... that's the problem.

    you've got too many fucking idiots out there that see rap as strictly a money making venture and nothing more.
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    how many times i gotta say rap is like wrestling... just cuz you lose the belt don't mean you'll never get it back...

    if heads stop complaining and start trying to coexist with the south... maybe... just maybe... NY can start getting some NY shit played in the south off the strength of musicality...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone E Atlas
    how many times i gotta say rap is like wrestling... just cuz you lose the belt don't mean you'll never get it back...
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    So rappers are getting scripts to read instead of contractz? lol
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    co-sign NY needs to go back to the rawness and stop trying to be something there not. like Fat Joe and these other cats like MEMS trying to sound southern. and stop worrying about what the south is doing, you aint changin shit by bitching. just do u niggas damn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pakkman6
    co-sign NY needs to go back to the rawness and stop trying to be something there not. like Fat Joe and these other cats like MEMS trying to sound southern. and stop worrying about what the south is doing, you aint changin shit by bitching. just do u niggas damn.
    that shit is discusting how Fat Joe interpreted that Jadakiss line. Jada simply meant do something different if what you doing aint working, not jump on the othermans dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EzMoney
    So rappers are getting scripts to read instead of contractz? lol
    ask 50... what size batteries in ya back...

    some dudes is puppets... some dudes need ghostwriters...

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    mahn..dat was probably the realest statement any hip hop pioneer has made in a long long time....he aint speakn down on no side(but promoting his own side..doing him which is his point)..but he making the point that niggas need to do them..get urs/fuck another nigga paycheck...make yo music & let it reflect yo culture& life stories...and if niggas relate they will flock to it regardless of where you from, CAUSE IN THE END WE ALL BLACK PEOPLE REPRESENTING THE SAME DAMN STRUGGLE..

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