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    14.What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? 15Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. 16If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? 17In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

    18.But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds."
    Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.

    19.You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.

    20.You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[a]? 21Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,"[b] and he was called God's friend. 24You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.


    25.In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction?JAMES 2: 14-24
    ^^^That right there proves it. If u don't have faith u don't have nuthin. U can say that you have faith but can u walk it??????God wants to see a proof of your deeds and actions.
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    faith - Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence
    http://dictionary.reference.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by FostaChild
    faith - Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence
    http://dictionary.reference.com/

    u can have all the faith u want buddy


    Kinda harsh, but it's true...

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    ^^That's what athiests want u to believe. People that lack belief in God have nothin to look up 2. So they look for christianity or any other religion with God in it to go against.
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    I have faith and I believe if you believe in something with 100% no doubt in your mind, it can happen or it is real...and I do mean 100%...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sac-townnigga
    ^^That's what athiests want u to believe. People that lack belief in God have nothin to look up 2. So they look for christianity or any other religion with God in it to go against.

    i aint against religion your a close minded fuck for saying things like that

    thats like me sayin all christians follow religion cuz they scared of thinking for themselves


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    Authentick I will be thinking of you when Im sipping on champgane with Jesus in heaven while you burn in hell for eternity
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    youll be in the dirt being eaten by worms....get a grip on reality famm you must be drunk off that champagne already
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    Let me just put this simple...

    No matter what you are...be what you claim to be..

    If you're Christian...do you pray like Jesus prayed? Do you attend church? Do you do good deeds?

    If you're muslim...do you pray like Muhammed prayed? Do you perform your daily salah? Do you do good deeds?

    If you're jewish...do you follow the Torah? Are you at the synagogue? Do you do good deeds?

    No matter what you are....you must follow your faith to truly associate your words with actions. This article has alot of truth.

    As for me...my faith is unwavered and nothing you guys can say to me will change my opinion. Call me foolish...it won't affect me. Call me blind...I won't hinder in your criticism.

    Call me what you want...but I call myself a muslim, and it'll never change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavily Weeded
    Let me just put this simple...

    No matter what you are...be what you claim to be..

    If you're Christian...do you pray like Jesus prayed? Do you attend church? Do you do good deeds?

    If you're muslim...do you pray like Muhammed prayed? Do you perform your daily salah? Do you do good deeds?

    If you're jewish...do you follow the Torah? Are you at the synagogue? Do you do good deeds?

    No matter what you are....you must follow your faith to truly associate your words with actions. This article has alot of truth.

    As for me...my faith is unwavered and nothing you guys can say to me will change my opinion. Call me foolish...it won't affect me. Call me blind...I won't hinder in your criticism.

    Call me what you want...but I call myself a muslim, and it'll never change.

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    Black Cat....there won't be any alcohol in Heaven. Alcohol is a tool of the devil...and in Heaven you won't need anything "wordly" to make you happy. You're in heaven...being there is enough.

    The over all Message from those mentioned above is "PRACTICE RIGHTEOUSNESS" not this is how we pray -

    this is what causes alot of the seperatism and war - one says "my prophet prays like this so this is the correct way to pray"

    and the other is saying the same thing - so they both looking at each other funny because each one thinks the other is going to hell for not following god properly -

    the overall message is practice righteousness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavily Weeded
    Let me just put this simple...

    No matter what you are...be what you claim to be..

    If you're Christian...do you pray like Jesus prayed? Do you attend church? Do you do good deeds?

    If you're muslim...do you pray like Muhammed prayed? Do you perform your daily salah? Do you do good deeds?

    If you're jewish...do you follow the Torah? Are you at the synagogue? Do you do good deeds?

    No matter what you are....you must follow your faith to truly associate your words with actions. This article has alot of truth.

    As for me...my faith is unwavered and nothing you guys can say to me will change my opinion. Call me foolish...it won't affect me. Call me blind...I won't hinder in your criticism.

    Call me what you want...but I call myself a muslim, and it'll never change.

    P.S.

    Black Cat....there won't be any alcohol in Heaven. Alcohol is a tool of the devil...and in Heaven you won't need anything "wordly" to make you happy. You're in heaven...being there is enough.
    WHAT DOES MUSLIM MEAN AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A MUSLIM?

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    24You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.


    14.What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? 15Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. 16If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? 17In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.



    20.You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[a]?



    how does everyone here see these scriptures - there seems to be confusion in here

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    What's with the criticism? All I said was if you associate yourself with religion, you must practice it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knowitall
    WHAT DOES MUSLIM MEAN AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A MUSLIM?
    To me...a muslim is one who submits his will to Allah to attain peace...for you...it merely means "one of peace" or one looking to arrive at peace. The connotations given to the word over time changed it's meaning, but what other ethnic or religious group use this word other than the Islamic people? That's why I consider a muslim to be a person who submits himself to allah for peace...because even if it's connotation evolved, I don't know of any other group who classify themselves as muslims.

    We discussed this before...but what's its relevance to what we're talkin about here("Associating your actions with your religion")?
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    To me...a muslim is one who submits his will to Allah to attain peace...
    This is why you'll never find favor in the eyesight of ALLAH. You want to go by what it is to "you" rather than going by what was prescribed by almighty god ALLAH. Your actions will never be one with that which was prescribed for you because you can't/don't reflect what was laid down for you.

    for you...it merely means "one of peace" or one looking to arrive at peace.
    Muslim doesn't mean something for me, it means what it means not what you or any of your religious counterparts wish it to mean. Why continue trying to change what Allah gave to you? Obviously you don't respect or appreciate what was given, otherwise you wouldn't try and change it.

    The connotations given to the word over time changed it's meaning,
    The meaning hasn't changed, you just been fooled and lied to thats all.

    but what other ethnic or religious group use this word other than the Islamic people?
    Alot. The word didn't come from the religion of islam. BTW Islam is not a religion.

    That's why I consider a muslim to be a person who submits himself to allah for peace...
    This is why you are in error because you're doing what you want isntead of doing what was established by ALLAH.

    because even if it's connotation evolved, I don't know of any other group who classify themselves as muslims.
    Just because you don't know them doesn't mean they don't exist.

    We discussed this before...but what's its relevance to what we're talkin about here("Associating your actions with your religion")?
    Because your actions are not equal with the word of ALLAH. You can't handle simple choices of right and wrong so how are you going to come out right when major trials and tribulations are laid in front of you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowitall
    This is why you'll never find favor in the eyesight of ALLAH. You want to go by what it is to "you" rather than going by what was prescribed by almighty god ALLAH. Your actions will never be one with that which was prescribed for you because you can't/don't reflect what was laid down for you.
    Says who? You?

    You'd agree with me that the relationship with God and one of his creations is a 1 to 1 relationship...meaning you'd need no intermediaries in order to communicate with the Lord. If he indeed created you He knows whats in your heart, and how you act according to what you believe in.

    You're making the critical mistake here...of assuming I'm not sincere in my approach to Allah. You're making the mistake of assuming I'm contorting my religion to what I want to believe...nay, I'm merely trying to find the truth. And as I find truth...I incorporate it into my life.

    Who says I'll never find favor in sight of Allah...as long as I continue to search for truth? Searching for truth is a road....a marathon...it is not a destination.

    Additinoally, does that mean someone who was never exposed to the truth will never find favor in the eyes of Allah? You make harsh predictions on what you think Allah knows, and yes, that is human pride working at it's best.

    You need to humble yourself, knowitall. That was a ridiculous assumption to think you'd know what Allah thinks of me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knowitall
    Because your actions are not equal with the word of ALLAH.
    So if someone is never exposed to the true message and true purpose of life for which Allah has perscribed...and dies in a state of unbelief...from your statements this man has done wrong, continued to do wrong, and never establish in himself the true way of life he should've lived.

    So what now? He should be sent to damnation? How can you make assumptions based on the little you DO know, and the world of things you don't know about an individual?

    I admit you have done your homework on alot of the issues we discuss here, but you only know a little on some things (such as the way I live) and predict/assume more than you should.
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    Says who? You?

    You'd agree with me that the relationship with God and one of his creations is a 1 to 1 relationship...meaning you'd need no intermediaries in order to communicate with the Lord. If he indeed created you He knows whats in your heart, and how you act according to what you believe in.
    no i don't agree with you that the relationship with god and one of his creations is a one to one relationship. allah created the universe which is everything. uni means one verse means to turn. universe to turn as one. whoever leaves the plan and wants to do their own thing falls from the grace of the lord. i'm one with allah and you can't seperate me from allah or me form the universe or me from my brother.

    do you need somebody else to communicate with god? no.

    You're making the critical mistake here...of assuming I'm not sincere in my approach to Allah. You're making the mistake of assuming I'm contorting my religion to what I want to believe...nay, I'm merely trying to find the truth. And as I find truth...I incorporate it into my life.
    i didn't say you weren't sincere. there's many people who are sincere, but that doesn't mean they're not in error with all the sincerity in the world.

    allah never gave a religion. this right here is your mistake thinking you're on the right path but your not. that comes from a lack of understanding islam. you don't have to contort your religion, it was already done by those who came before you. all you're doing is following them and not allah.

    you say as you find truth you incorporate it into your life, but this is not accurate because the blessing of the truth was given to you on multiple of subjects yet and still you reject the truth.

    Who says I'll never find favor in sight of Allah...as long as I continue to search for truth? Searching for truth is a road....a marathon...it is not a destination.
    while you're searching, those who have knowledge of allah are already at the destination. keep walking the way your walking and you'll never get to the destination. turn around before its to late.

    Additinoally, does that mean someone who was never exposed to the truth will never find favor in the eyes of Allah? You make harsh predictions on what you think Allah knows, and yes, that is human pride working at it's best.
    do you know what allah knows?

    You need to humble yourself, knowitall. That was a ridiculous assumption to think you'd know what Allah thinks of me.
    i didn't tell you what allah thinks of you, i told you what will cause you not to have favor in the eye sight of allah.

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