Originally Posted by Igotcha
that shit is a mixtape, not an album, and i agree, alc is one of the best in this era along with just blaze, Timbaland, 9th wonder and Kanye.......but they aint touchin the vets like Pemier and Rza......
Anybody checking for this? He has a track with Az thats playing now, shit is a banger.
ALC = my fav producer in this era
*not above the vet producers, I know the rules
Looks like I got two albums to buy on the 25th
Currently listening to: Curren$y - Pilot Talk. Go buy that shit. & Phil Ade - The Letterman (Mixed by Don Cannon)
^I'm still dat nigga. Don't sleep. Check em out^
Originally Posted by Igotcha
that shit is a mixtape, not an album, and i agree, alc is one of the best in this era along with just blaze, Timbaland, 9th wonder and Kanye.......but they aint touchin the vets like Pemier and Rza......
Whats the AZ track like?
And alc = best producer in the game right now. Hes better than primo and rza. if you unpin your little hiphop badges and shit its not hard to aknowledge.
Aw fuck, there he go againTalkin bout hoes and dough againYup! -- Can't hold it inI'm surprised I got so much dough to spend
Yeah, I just now seen it at mixtapemerchants.com, My bad peeps but az tricked me when he said new album coming soon lolOriginally Posted by D O
AZ - Professional Style
http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...82Y6GHGEA9JW3B
Last edited by Igotcha; 04-05-2006 at 04:45 PM.
Currently listening to: Curren$y - Pilot Talk. Go buy that shit. & Phil Ade - The Letterman (Mixed by Don Cannon)
^I'm still dat nigga. Don't sleep. Check em out^
Originally Posted by NexMan
damn, u always say the stupidest shit........better than Rza and Premier.....nigga you know shit about hip-hop.......Rza and Premier fathered Alchemist's whole style.....Rza and premier got Catalogs of classic material.....Alchemist has put out one album....Rza and Premier have worked with just about every hott nigga in the game, commercial or underground....Alchemist has worked with niggas that is in the soul assassins camp, Queensbridge niggas and now cats that's down with shady/Aftermath.....
Alchemist has never produced anything on an album that is considered classic......Premier and Rza have done it numerous times......
bottom line is Rza and Premier are icons.....Alchemist is a great producer, he'll one day be on Preemo's and Rza's level, no doubt......but as of right now, he's not even on his homeboy Havoc's level as far as longevity in the production game and volume of valued works.......
You get i dunno hmmm 3 hiphop points? yeah 3 hiphop points for that post.
Alchemist has a better more complete/varied discography & i know all about rza and preem keep ya essay.
Aw fuck, there he go againTalkin bout hoes and dough againYup! -- Can't hold it inI'm surprised I got so much dough to spend
Aw fuck, there he go againTalkin bout hoes and dough againYup! -- Can't hold it inI'm surprised I got so much dough to spend
alc has no classic tracks? Nah thats just hate right there
Currently listening to: Curren$y - Pilot Talk. Go buy that shit. & Phil Ade - The Letterman (Mixed by Don Cannon)
^I'm still dat nigga. Don't sleep. Check em out^
Originally Posted by NexMan
you sir, are a moron......to say that Alchemist has a more complete/varied discography means your not familiar with Rza and Premier's works, they have way more shit out there than Alchemist, and it's of a much better quality as well.......when alchemist was still learning how to produce from Muggz on the road, Rza and DJ Premier were already staples in the world of production......you can clown my "essay" all you want, but instead of being a dumb lil nigga, you should read it and take in some knowledge, cause you sound dumb as hell......like you just started listenin to hip-hop in 98' or some shit.....
I got a chemistry files mixtape this must be the album...
Alchemist and Neptunes the best right now.
Don't you ever give up, Don't you ever give in
We will have our way some day, Don't you ever 'dutty'
Hail up King Selassie plus Omega the queen
We're gonna make it....It's not too late....
Originally Posted by Igotcha
he doesent as of yet........it's the truth....i don't think that's his fault either, he gives a lot of his beats to artists that are sub par lyricists.....the best emcees he's worked with have been Nas, Jadakiss, and certain Wu-tang members.....he needs to start sliding his tracks to guys like Beanie Sigel, Jay-z, Common, Sean Price, etc., etc.,.......someone who might be able to do em a little more justice... for example, i mean that shit Cam'ron did with "wet wipes"......i mean come on man, that was a horrible song, but Alchemist's beat was beyond dope, but he wasted it by giving it to Cam.....
What about the stocking cap track he gave to Saigon? The tracks he gave to mega? And that track three ft comega on prodigy's album? And tic tock with nas and mobb deep?
Currently listening to: Curren$y - Pilot Talk. Go buy that shit. & Phil Ade - The Letterman (Mixed by Don Cannon)
^I'm still dat nigga. Don't sleep. Check em out^
a good song, i admit, but it's not a classic piece of material.....were entering the realm of songs that will always be royalty in rap......stuff that is timeless....."live at the barbecue", "down with the king", "straight outta compton", "nature of the threat", "life's a bitch", "brooklyn marsala"....all these songs are classic kid......Originally Posted by Igotcha
people are always labeling stuff classic these days that just isn't......just because a mixtape joint with a catchy drum pattern has replay value doesent make it classic.....
everyone's definition of classic is different tho, if you think that song is classic, than that's you baby boy, but i am pretty sure most heads would give it the nod as being an above average effort, it woulden't be considered a classic song...
Yea he's not a legend yet......he still needs to work with christina aguilera....
But he's the best though.
Don't you ever give up, Don't you ever give in
We will have our way some day, Don't you ever 'dutty'
Hail up King Selassie plus Omega the queen
We're gonna make it....It's not too late....
here's just a glimpse of Rza's discography.......
Self Produced-
Ooh, We Love You Rakeem
Deadly Venoms
Sexcapades
Sexcapades remix
Intro (for BDIS)
B.O.B.B.Y.
Unspoken Word
Slow Grind African
Love Jones
N.Y.C. Everything
Mantis
Slow Grind French
Holocaust
Terrorist
Terrorist full version
Bobby Did It (Spanish Fly)
Handwriting On The Wall
Slow Grind Italian
My Loving Is Digi
Domestic Violence
Project Talk (Projectz int. Remix)
Lab Drunk
**** What You Think
Daily Routine
Show U Love
Can’t Loose
Glockgo Pop
Glockgo Pop original mix
Brooklyn Babies
Do U
Do U original mix
Fools
Black Widow Pt 2
Shady
Break Bread
Bong Bong
Throw Your Flag Up
Be A Man
Righteous Way
Build Strong
Sickness
Odyssey
Cousinz
Thirsty
Digi-Electronics
Billy
RZA Beat
Samurai Showdown
All Ghost Dog Score cuts
And Justice For All
Belly of The Beast
The Chase
Wu-Wear
Tragedy (co-prod by RZA)
Wu World Order
Wu World Order rmx
G-13
Shaolin Mixtape intro
Sting intro
Black Knights-
Zip Code
GAT
Woodchuck
Blue Raspberry-
It’s Time
Cappa-
Run
Blood On Blood War
MCF
Young Hearts
Pump Ya Fist
97 Mentality
Spit That G
Cilvaringz-
Ninja Starz
Man, Woman & Child rmx demo
Gravediggaz-
1-800 Suicide poisonous mix
Diary of a Madman- co-prod w/ RNS & Prince Paul
Graveyard Chamber
6 Feet Deep
Intro
Dangerous Minds (co-prod by RZA)
Pit Of Snakes (co-prod by RZA)
The Night The Earth Cried (co-prod by RZA)
What’s Going On
Mommy What’s A Gravedigga- Rzamix
GZA-
Pass The Bone
Words From The Genius rmx
Liquid Swords
Duel Of The Iron Mics
Gold
Living In The World Today
Cold World
Cold World rmx
Labels
Labels RZA rmx
4th Chamber
Shadowboxin’
Killah Hills 10304
Investigative Reports
I Gotcha Back
Unexplained
1112
Rough Cut
Ghostface Killah-
Iron Maiden
Iron Maiden rmx
Iron Maiden extd inst
Wildflower
Wildflower extd inst
The Faster Blade
The Faster Blade extd inst
260
260 extd inst
Assassination Day
Assassination Day extd inst
Poisonous Darts
Poisonous Darts extd inst
Winter Warz
Box In Hand
Box In Hand extd inst
Camay
Camay extd inst
Daytona 500
Daytona 500 extd inst
Motherless Child
Motherless Child extd inst
Black Jesus
After The Smoke Is Clear
After The Smoke Is Clear etxd inst
All That I Got Is You
All That I Got Is You inst version
The Soul Controller
Soul Controller inst version
Marvel
The Grain
Buck 50
Ghost Deini US SC version
Woodrow the Basehead skit
Stroke of Death
Who Would You **** skit
Child’s Play
Child’s Play original version
Iron Themes
Maxine
Flowers
Flowers original
Walking Through The Darkness
Jealousy
The Sun
Box In Hand (original)
Who’s The Champion
Inspectah Deck-
Movas & Shakers
Friction
Killarmy-
Wake Up
War Face (co-prod by 4th)
LA the Darkman-
Polluted Wisdom
Lord Superb-
Spend Money
Takin Up Space
Masta Killa-
The Man
Melodie-
Stay With Me
Method Man-
Tical
Biscuits
Bring The Pain
All I Need
What The Blood Clot
Meth vs Chef
Sub Crazy (co-prod by 4th)
Release Yo’ Delf
P.L.O. Style
I Get My Thang In Action
Mr. Sandman
Stimulation
Method Man (rmx)
Perfect World
Suspect Chin Music
Retro Godfather
Party Crashers original
Cereal Killas
Run 4 Cover
The Riddler
The Riddler (hide out remix)
All I Need (Razor Remix)
North Star-
Fo Sho
ODB-
Shimmy Shimmy Ya
Baby C’mon
Hippa to the Hoppa
Raw Hide
Damage (co-prod by 4th)
Don’t U Know
The Stomp (co prod by RZA)
Goin’ Down
Snakes
Brooklyn Zoo II (Tiger Crane)
Protect Ya Neck II The Zoo
Cuttin’ Headz
Dirty Dancin’
I Want *****
***** Please
Get It To Ya Raw
Don’t You Know Pt. II
Dirty & Stinkin’
Dirty The Moocher (co-prod by ODB & Cherokee Chief)
Goin Down intro
Who Rock Dis (co prod w/ BBTP)
Ice Cream Man (demo)
Raekwon-
Knowledge God
Knuckleheadz
Criminology
Incarcerated Scarfaces
Rainy Dayz
Guillotine (Swordz)
Can It Be All So Simple (rmx)
Ice Water
Glaciers Of Ice
Verbal Intercourse
Wisdom Body
Spot Rusherz
Ice Cream
Wu-Gambinos
Heaven & Hell
North Star
Wu-Gambinos (Hidden Chamber remix)
Royal Fam-
The Legacy
Walk The Dogs
Shyhiem-
Little Rascals
Young Gods
Co-Defendant
When You Come Home
Solomon Childs-
Out Think Me Now
Sugar Bang Bang-
Don’t Test
Sunz Of Man-
Tribulations
Inmates To The Fire
Can I See You
Concrete Jungle
Soldiers Of Darkness
Strange Eyes
Tekitha-
Walking Through The Darkness
U-God-
Stay In Your Lane
Turbo Charge
Warcloud-
Bluntz, Martinez, Girlz & Gunz
Wu-Tang-
Bring Da Ruckus
Shame On A *****
Clan In Da Front
Wu-tang: 7th Chamber
Can It Be All So Simple
Da Mystery Of Chessboxin’
Wu-tang Clan Ain’t Nuttin’ To **** Wit’
CREAM
Method Man
Protect Ya Neck
Tearz
Wu-tang: 7th Chamber II
Wu-Revolution
Reunited
For Heavens Sake
As High As Wu-Tang Get
Severe Punishment
Maria
It’s Yourz
Triumph
Impossible (co-prod by 4th)
Little Ghetto Boys
Deadly Melody
The Projects
Bells of War
Dog ****
Duck Seazon
Hell’s Wind Staff
Black Shampoo
Second Coming
Shaolin Finger Jab
Chamber Music
Careful (Click, Click)
Hollow Bones
Redbull
One Blood Under Wu
Conditioner
The Jump Off
Let My *****z Live
I Can’t Go To Sleep
I Can’t Go To Sleep rmx
The Monument
Gravel Pit
Jah World
In The Hood
Chrome Wheels
Soul Power (Black Jungle)
Uzi (Pinky Ring)
Babies
Radioactive
Iron Flag
Good Thing I Brought the Glock
Dashing (Reasons)
The W
Problemz
Wu-Tang Master
It’s All About Me
Enter The Wu
The Wu Is Comin’ Thru
Bring Da Rukus demo version
America
Semi-Automatic: Full Rap Metal Jacket
Throw The Hammer Down
St. Ides Commercial
Mt. Dew commercial
Sunshower
Projectz int. rmx
Fast Shadow
Fast Shadow rmx
Killa Beez
KB Ridin
96’ Recreation
Diesel
Execute Them
7th Chamber original mix
MISC.-
Whatever Happened (The Birth)- AZ
Stand Up- Charli Baltimore
They- Charli Baltimore
Tres Leches – Big Pun
Long Kiss Goodnight- the Notorious B.I.G.
As Long As You Know- Criminal Scientifik
Scalp Dem (Wu-Tang mix)- Super Cat
No Hooks- Shaq
No Hook (RZA rmx)- Shaq
Killah Hill- Cypress Hill
Doe or Die (rmx)- AZ
Step Right In- Dog Eat Dog
Eyes A Bleed- Bounty Killa
Say What You Want- Texas
Bachlorette remix- Bjork
The World of Susie Wong- Last Emperor
Cakes- Kool G Rap
East NY Stamp- Jeru & Afu-Ra
Keep It Thoro remix- Prodigy
Originally Posted by Igotcha
If ya ask me "we gon make it"JADAKISS (the beat he did 4 RASS that started the lil beef they had)is a classic thats like in my top 20 beats of all time i love that beat i play the instrumental every once in a while it never gets tired.
props.. its hot!Originally Posted by Igotcha
Elvis - was a hero to most
But he never meant shit to me, it's statements
- Royce Da 5'9''
''Learned to stand before I crawled.
Things were twisted!
And if you showed me anything at all
then I missed it.
Looked the wrong way. (uh huh)
I've done some wrong things. (true)
Kept a bad attitude,
but that's what wrong brings''
-DMX
CAMRON FIRES BACK AT JAY-Z (video on youtube)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROncKQVtBxg
there is no way you can clown Premier's status son......he's worked with the best and given them timeless shit......if he wants to get a ittle money doin some shit for her let him......his credibility is padded like a muthafucka...Originally Posted by Incognito
here's a taste of his production credits......look at all the classic material son....
- Afu-Ra ft. Guru - Blvd. [produced by DJ Premier - from Life Force Radio]
- All City - Afta Hourz [produced by DJ Premier - from Metropolis Gold]
- All City - The Actual [produced by DJ Premier - from Metropolis Gold]
- Bahamadia ft. K. Williams, K. Akins - 3 Tha Hard Way [produced by DJ Premier - from Kollage]
- Bahamadia - Interlude [produced by DJ Premier - from Kollage]
- Bahamadia - Intro [produced by DJ Premier - from Kollage]
- - Big Daddy Kane ft. Jay-Z, Ol' Dirty Bastard, Shyheim, Sauce Money, Bi - Show and Prove [produced by DJ Premier - from Daddy's Home]
- Big L - Intro [produced by DJ Premier - from The Big Picture]
- Big L ft. Big daddy Kane - Platinum Plus [produced by DJ Premier - from The Big Picture]
- Big L ft. Fat Joe - The Enemy [produced by DJ Premier - from The Big Picture]
-- Capone 'N Noreaga - Invincible [produced by DJ Premier - from The Reunion]
- Common ft. Bilal - The 6th Sense [produced by DJ Premier - from Like Water For Chocolate]
- D.I.T.C. - Da Enemy [produced by DJ Premier - from D.I.T.C.]
- D.I.T.C. - Ebonics (Premo mix) [produced by DJ Premier - from D.I.T.C.]
- D.I.T.C. - Thick [produced by DJ Premier - from D.I.T.C.]
- Da Youngstas - Wake 'Em Up [produced by DJ Premier - from The Aftermath]
- Das EFX - No Diggedy [produced by DJ Premier - from Hold It Down]
- Das EFX - Real Hip Hop (Original Version) [produced by DJ Premier - from Hold It Down]
-- Fat Joe - Dat Gangsta sh*t [produced by DJ Premier - from Don Cartagena]
- Fat Joe - The sh*t Is Real (DJ Premier Remix) [produced by DJ Premier - from Jealous Ones Envy]
- Gangstarr - (Hiney) [produced by DJ Premier - from The Ownerz]
- Gangstarr - 2 Deep [produced by DJ Premier - from Daily Operation]
- Gangstarr - 24-7-365 [produced by DJ Premier - from Daily Operation]
- Gangstarr - 92 Interlude [produced by DJ Premier - from Daily Operation]
- Gangstarr ft. Inspectah Deck - Above The Clouds [produced by DJ Premier - from Moment Of Truth]
- Gangstarr - Aiiight Chill... [produced by DJ Premier - from Hard To Earn]
- from Daily Operation]
- Gangstarr - Intro (HQ, Goo, Panch) [produced by DJ Premier - from The Ownerz]
Premier - from Moment Of Truth]
- Gangstarr - Next Time [produced by DJ Premier - from Moment Of Truth]
- Gangstarr ft. Boy Big - Nice Girl, Wrong Place [produced by DJ Premier - from The Ownerz]
? [produced by DJ Premier - from Step In The Arena]
None Of Y'all Betta [produced by DJ Premier - from Kiss Tha Game Goodbye]
- Jay-Z ft. Big Jaz, Sauce Money - Bring It On [produced by DJ Premier - from Reasonable Doubt]
- Jay-Z - D'Evils [produced by DJ Premier - from Reasonable Doubt]
- Jay-Z - Friend Or Foe [produced by DJ Premier - from Reasonable Doubt]
- Jay-Z - Friend Or Foe '98 [produced by DJ Premier - from Vol.1: In My Lifetime]
- Jay-Z - Intro [produced by DJ Premier - from Vol.2: Hard Knock Life]
- Jay-Z - Intro - A Million And One Question [produced by DJ Premier - from Vol.1: In My Lifetime]
- Jay-Z - So Ghetto [produced by DJ Premier - from Vol.3:Life and Times of S.C.]
- Jermaine Dupri ft. Snoop Dogg,Warren G,R.O.C. - Protector's Of 1472 [produced by DJ Premier - from Jermaine Dupri Presents Life In 1472]
- Jeru The Damaja - Ain't The Devil Happy [produced by DJ Premier - from The Sun Rises In The East]
- Jeru The Damaja - Black Cowboys [produced by DJ Premier - from Wrath Of The Math]
- Jeru The Damaja - Brooklyn Took [produced by DJ Premier - from The Sun Rises In The East]
[produced by DJ Premier - from Funky Technician]
- Lord Finesse and Mike Smooth - Lord Finesse's Theme Song Intro [produced by DJ Premier - from Funky Technician]
- Lord Finesse and Mike Smooth - Slave To My Soundwave [produced by DJ Premier - from Funky Technician]
- Lord Finesse and Mike Smooth - Strictly For The Ladies [produced by DJ Premier - from Funky Technician]
- Lord Finesse and Mike Smooth - Track The Movement [produced by DJ Premier - from Funky Technician]
- M.O.P. - Blood Sweat And Tears [produced by DJ Premier - from First Family 4 Life]
- M.O.P. - Breakin' The Rules [produced by DJ Premier - from First Family 4 Life]
- M.O.P. - Brownsville [produced by DJ Premier - from Firing Squad]
- M.O.P. - Downtown Swinga [produced by DJ Premier - from First Family 4 Life]
- M.O.P. - Downtown Swinga ('96) [produced by DJ Premier - from Firing - M.O.P. - Stick To Ya Gunz [produced by DJ Premier - from Firing Squad]
- Macy Gray ft. Mos Def, Gang Starr - I've Committed Murder (Gang Starr Remix) [produced by DJ Premier - from Lyricist Lounge Vol. 2]
- DJ Premier - from Paid Da Cost To Be Da Boss]
- The Lady Of Rage - Microphone Pon Cok [produced by DJ Premier - from Necessary Roughness]
- The Lady Of Rage - Some sh*t [produced by DJ Premier - from Necessary Roughness]
- The Lox - Recognize [produced by DJ Premier - from We Are the Streets]
- The Notorious B.I.G. - Kick In The Door [produced by DJ Premier - from Life After Death]
- The Notorious B.I.G. ft. Redman,Method Man - Rap Phenomenon [produced by DJ Premier - from Born Again]
- The Notorious B.I.G. - Ten Crack Commandments [produced by DJ Premier - from Life After Death]
- The Notorious B.I.G. - Unbelievable [produced by DJ Premier - from Ready To Die]
- Tony Touch ft. Rise And Shine - Gotcha Back [produced by DJ Premier - from The Last Of The Pro Ricans]
- Tony Touch ft. Gangstarr - Natural [produced by DJ Premier - from The Last Of The Pro Ricans]
- Tony Touch ft. Gangstarr - The Piecemaker [produced by DJ Premier - from The Piecemaker]
- X-ecutioners - Premier's X-ecution [produced by DJ Premier - from Built From Scratch]
I wasn't knocking rza or premo, them along with dj quik are my top 3 producers.
I was just saying alc is my favorite new era producer.
Currently listening to: Curren$y - Pilot Talk. Go buy that shit. & Phil Ade - The Letterman (Mixed by Don Cannon)
^I'm still dat nigga. Don't sleep. Check em out^
I know........i was really addressin that Nexman character.....lol, he really didn't know what he was talkin about......overall i agree.....Alc has got a bright future, but by all means he is just a baby in this......I look forward to watchin him progress, but if he wants his legacy to be what Preemo's and Rza's and muggz's and Large professor's, and Dj Scratch's, and DR Period's, than he's gonna have to start passing them beat cd's to more worthwhile emcee's like Saigon....Originally Posted by Igotcha