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Would the world be better without religion Thread
Religion served its purpose. It helped to control the uneducated masses. I do not think it is really necessary at this point and time, which is why it is now fading out. Is it still needed, is it only causing problems now?
Does religion do more harm than good to the entire planet? Or is religion good but maybe there is just one particular religion making the entire idea of being devoted to god as harmful?
Let's say that there is a man, he hops on a bus carrying a suitcase and an overcoat and under his coat there is a bomb, his pockets are filled with nails, ball bearings and rat poison. The bus is full and headed towards the heart of the city. The man sits next to a middle-aged couple and he will wait for the bus to reach it's next stop. The couple at his side are talking about which movie to rent during the weekend. New passengers have arrived and taking up the empty seats and some standing up. The man smiles, presses a button and destroys himself, the couple at his side and everyone else in the bus. The nails, ball bearings and rat poison make sure there are also other casualties in the area. Everything is going according to plan.
The man's parents soon learn of their son's death, they feel sad for having lost a son but also feel alot of pride for what he has done. They know he has gone to heaven. He also sent his victims to hell forever.
Suppose that's all we know, suppose we know nothing else of the man in the story. Is there anything else we can guess about him on the basis of his behavior? Was he popular in school, was he intelligent? Was he rich or was he poor? His actions left no clue at all about anything of him.
So why is it just so damn easy to guess his religion, so easy that you'll bet your life on it?
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Organised religion, IMO is bullshit. Cool if you believe in something. But the way in which people are taught about religion, is basically being taught another persons ideals, and ideas on religion. Thats not belief, thats brainwashing.
Religion, or most religions, are just another way of segregating people.
"...This thing here, ever man in the world goes through,
But fuck that, I put alotta money up, I'm hatin!..."
On the rest of your post, which admittedly I didnt read before posting my opinion on religion, I can only assume you are talking about Muslims.
Obviously being from the UK, and having had the London bombings, and therefore pretty much the situation you have described, you have deliberately co-ersed us into talking about Muslims.
And on Muslims, its a case again of the miseducated, or plain old uneducated, that play a big part. Muslims by their own religions teachings, should not be doing that, and other Muslims dont condone it. But there are too many people in positions of Power in Islam that abuse their power, when it comes to educating those around them about their faith. Many Muslims are taught interpretations of Islam, and are taught not to question it, and therefore dont, they are ignorant, but not by choice, they just arent given the freedom to choose to learn otherwise.
Then there are others, like the guy who has just been put back in prison here in the UK, for recent demonstrations about the Danish Press. He dressed up as a suicide bomber, supposedly to show his disgust during the protest. Turns out the prick was on parole for Drugs offences among other things, and hes been thrown back in prison for inciting racial hatred and terrorism. How can a drug dealing man claim to be so outraged by the way someone has offended his religion, when just by his way of life, he is being just as offensive to his so called beliefs?
"...This thing here, ever man in the world goes through,
But fuck that, I put alotta money up, I'm hatin!..."
No.
Problem is we wanna be our own gods.
Is that the problem? Or is the problem that people want you to believe in their god/gods? I always thought the problem with religion was that people wish to impose their beliefs on others.Originally Posted by Yannick
"...This thing here, ever man in the world goes through,
But fuck that, I put alotta money up, I'm hatin!..."
The world would be much better without organized religion...
5,000,000 screaming muslims crying/dying over a cartoon is proof enough of that.
**Leading the people to the fountain of knowledge... one sideways hat wearing motherfucker at a time**
U talk crazy man...U definitely wanna be your own god.
I'm not sure if the world would be better without religion. There are enough ideologies like communism, racism, elitism, socialism, and other "isms" that can, will, and has been the justification for killing millions. Communism has claimed nearly 80 million lives in less than 100 years. Over 2000 years of Christanity, we have never seen killing on that scale. Facism and Eugenicism claimed a record 20 million lives in the span of less tha 20 YEARS! So no the world wouldn't be better without religion, because religion isn't the beginning or end of our problems.
Somebody should put out the facts on how many people Capitalism (aka Imperialism) has killed too! Including the whole western world and israel...DAMN! Gotta be more than all that...
Capitalism is not synonymous with imperialism. There has been imperialism under both socialism and communism. So obviously the two concepts are very disparate.
Well I meant nowadays...Imperial Capitalism, whatever u wanna call it...
You gonna act like its all perfect now...
Imperial Capitalism would be globalization or neoliberalist econimic models. In either case, there are enough contradiction in these two systems that negates many fundemental aspects of free market capitalism. Notice that when I say "capitalism" I am talking about the free market iteration. The IMF and Worldbancs are very socialist at a structural level (these commitees are the forefront of globalization BTW). I wouldn't consider these prime factors in capitalism. I don't believe capitalism is perfect, I simply believe it is the most egalitarian system that humans can implement.
How is it egalitarian when its proven that the gap b/w rich and poor is far greater than in any other economic system??
IMF and Worldbank are definitely not socialist, thats what they want you to think. And as matter of fact, they are 2 of the world's most corrupt institutions...
And I was referring to how you're talking about how theres been killings in all types of ideologies, but u exclude globalization cuz u know u benefit from it!
But fuck u, I want a system with equality and no oppression! And you're gonna tell me that shit is egalitarian...
More people suffer from US Imperialism today then in any other Empire.
IMF and Worldbanc are not structurally capitalistic. What they do is appoint dictators to various third world countries. These dictators control the economy. A command and control economy is the primary structure of both socialism and communism. A capitalistic society is a free-market society, meaning that there is NO government intervention. Under both the Worldback and IMF they promote VERY strong government intervention in all aspects of the economy.
Also I think the USA is the fairest country that has ever existed. If you think that the USA is comparable to Egypt, India (during their caste systems), Nazi Germany, pre industrial England, Rome, Mestoptamia, or any other tyrannical big empire, then you are off your rocker on that one. Capitalism is fair as it allows people the flexiblity to work and gain more. This contrast socialism where your income level is planned out for you. While socialism and communism are meant to be "equal", the result is that most people are equally miserble. I believe communism is a worst ideology than religion will ever be.
You are crazy...the one good thing about socialism is that there is no misery, there might be poverty but never misery...
I think the US empire is comparable at least to Nazi Germany...there's concentration camps in Europe and in Guantanamo Bay...Yall are fuckin Nationalists too...
You're crazy though cuz ...our opinion is different cuz u really into american values, that rugged individualism bullshit ...fuck that, we supposed to help each other ...not have whites rich as fuck and blacks/latinos miserable as fuck...
So fuck your opinion. And don't reply cuz I'm done.
man i hope fostachild dont show up... but he's right all these butt hurt christians over the da vinci code book and all those fucking baby muslims crying over a cartoon damn... if you really understand your religon you would know its all mythological
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Looks like someone needs to read their history. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you are 16 and know nothing about the real world. In either case, you can be done. Get your emotions in check too, once you think about life logically then you'll see communism is really a flawed ideology. But right now you seem incapable of handling a debate, so next.
Nah I'm not 16...but I'm not 26 either...
I dont wanna keep arguing with u cuz we look at things differently...I'm not even into communism, I just dont think capitalism is much better...
And you're mixing communism/socialism's political aspects with their economic aspects...if I do the same with the US, with what they've done, from human rights violations to enticing and creating wars....the only difference is the US has so much power that they dont have to directly mass murder, they just make the people kill each other...
There's no need to keep arguing cuz obviously your real world is different than my real world, so fuck it...
yan dog how can you say you dont rep communisim but say viva fidel
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